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up to London witnesses and de- The attention of the House of puties whenever their interests Commons was drawn to what were at stake, he gravely moved, seemed to be a violation of its pri“That it is expedient the Imperial vileges, by its members being Parliament should be occasionally summoned to serve on juries, and holden in capitals other than Lon- being visited with penalties for don"--that is, in Edinburgh and failing to appear. Mr. Holford, Dublin. Of course no person was member for Queenborough, stated found to second so crude and im- (20th February) that he had been practicable an idea. It would so summoned on a jury in the Exhave been as expensive to carry chequer ; believing that he was deputies and witnesses from Mid- exempted by his parliamentary dlesex to Dublin or Edinburgh as character, he had paid no attention to bring them from Dublin or to the sub-pæna, and the conseEdinburgh to London. Such a quence was, that he had been fined migration implied a transference for non-attendance. Mr. Ellice of the Court, and the Court es- stated that he had been fined under tablishments, to the temporary similar circumstances. A difference capital, and it would have been of opinion prevailing in the House necessary to conquer physical im- as to the right of exemption, Mr. possibilities. How was the Eng- Scarlett thinking that all persons lish bar to be carried to Edinburgh, were liable to be called on to disfor a session of parliament, to argue charge the duty of jurors, and Mr. cases of appeal before the Peers, Wynn and Mr. Peel arguing that and be practising, on the same the duty of a member of that day, in the courts of Westminster ? House was paramount to all other How was the chancellor to sit as duties, the matter was referred to judge at Lincoln's Inn in the morn- the committee of privileges. The ing, and preside in the evening, in committee next day presented their the House of Lords in Holyrood ? report, stating their opinion that How were the Attorney and Soli- it appeared to them to be an uncitor-general to move the King's« doubted privilege of the House, bench at 10 a. m., and at 6 p. m. that no member should be withbe replying in Dublin to a speech drawn from his duties as a member just made by Mr. Brougham, of the high court of parliament, to who, a few hours before, had re- attend on any other court; and turned from a trial for libel at that the right to refuse attendance Guildhall ? One of the satires on upon juries had been repeatedly the bubble schemes of 1825 was a asserted, of which three instances Joint-stock company for propelling were cited in the report. The stage coaches and their passen- privilege thus claimed certainly gers through a tube, in which a
seems to follow from the same vacuum had been created, at the principles which are the foundation rate of an hundred miles per of other unquestioned privileges of minute. Until this, or the Commons. The civil duty of equally efficient application of serving as a juror, is not higher mechanical power can be discovered, than the civil duty of paying a & proposal like that of the hon. debt; yet a member cannot be called member for the county of Salop from his duty in parliament to will continue to be impracticable. answer to civil process. Such pro
cess like the sub-pæna is in the name whether incurred during the sway of the king'; and so is the royal of the Brunswick family, or of any proclamation by which parliament preceding dynasty, he would have is convoked, and which imposes a
been the last man to oppose
such more general and imperative duty. proposition ; but it was a little too Besides, it seems to be more than much to select for peculiar favour doubtful, whether it would not be those whose only claim was their a manifest breach of privilege to having stood in rebellion to the commit a member to prison because constitution by opposing the revohe refused to pay the fine imposed lution, and aiding the cause of upon him for non-attendance as a tyranny and arbitrary power. Why juror: and if so, then the court was not the duke of Buccleugh issuing the sub-pæna would have restored to the dukedom of Monno means of asserting its jurisdic- mouth? Why were not similar tion, and the whole House of forfeitures restored ? He confessed Commons might be in contempt that the selection which had been from one end of the session to the made appeared to him to be most other.
unfortunate. He would not say, During the session, acts were that it betrayed a disregard to the passed restoring the Scottish peer- liberties of the people, but he would ages of earl of Carnwath, earl of say that it was injudicious; and if, Airlie, lord Duff, lord Elcho, and in that opinion, he stood alone, he the baronetcy of Threipland of should not be ashamed of his singum Fingark - all titles which had larity. All that he lamented was, been forfeited by rebellion in the that he had not stated his objections preceding century. Theonly express when these bills first made their sion of disapprobation of these acts appearance.
He could not sit of grace came from lord Milton, who down without intreating the indiavowed that his opposition to them viduals whose interests he might was founded upon political senti- appear to oppose, to believe that he ment. He said, that, from the first had not the slightest intention of moment these bills were introduced objecting to them personally. It into parliament, he had entertained might be advisable to create new an opinion, probably confined to peerages for them ; but he could himself, that they were measures not concur in the removal of the which ought not to be allowed to attainders in question. Sir John pass. The individuals interested Newport, likewise, expressed his might, for aught he knew, be most regret that similar acts of grace had meritorious characters, and qualified not been extended to old Irish to grace any rank to which they families of the greatest honour and might be elevated : nevertheless, highest respectability. Mr. Peel he must say, that the restoration replied by the simple statement to titles forfeited, not for treason that these reversals of attainders against the crown, but for treason had commenced with that of lord against the liberties of the subject, Edward Fitzgerald, and that he was a selection of cases, in his himself had made the motion that opinion, little entitled to approba- the descendants of lord Stafford tion. If a bill had been brought should be restored to their family in for the restoration of all titles dignities. against the effects of attainder, A question connected with the constitution of the House of Com- and the high value of his public möns was raised by a proposed services; nor did any member increase of the salary of Mr. Hus: insinuate that the remuneration Trade, to enable him to resign the proposal, when moved by the chanoffice of Treasurer of the Navy. cellor of the Exchequer in a comPrior to the year 1782, the duties mittee of supply (6th and 7th of performed by the Board of Trade April) was met by a very decided were not under any systematic opposition on the ground that the regulations, and the individuals disjunction of the two offices was composing it received no stated unnecessary, as no 'active duties salaries. In 1782 many of the were attached to the Treasurership arrangements connected with it of the Navy, or, at all events, its had been altered by the reform of duties might; without inconveniMr. Burke: but the mode adopted ence, be transferred to the payto remunerate the president was, master, the real officer in that to pay him scarcely any thing in department; that by adding 2,0001. that capacity which required from to the present salary of the him services of the greatest diffi- Treasurer, or giving 2,0001
. a 'year culty and importance, and award additional as the salary of the to him what was deemed compen- Presidency of the Board of Trade, sation, under some other character. the same amount of remuneration A few years ago, a fixed salary of to the individual holding both 2,000l. had been attached to the offices would be made 'up, at a office of vice-president; but that of smaller cost to the public ; and, president remained upon its old above all, that the scheme of disfooting, the person who held it joining the offices was merely a receiving nothing from it but cloak for the introduction of a new receiving along with it another placeman into the House. Instead office for which a stated salary was of one member holding both with allowed. Mr. Huskisson, who at 5,0001. a year, there would be a present filled it, was paid by the President of the Board of Trade salary of 3,0001. which he received with 5,0001., and a Treasurer of the as Treasurer of the Navy. It was Navy with 3,0001. now proposed to disjoin the offices ; Mr. Huskisson himself said, that, to give the President of the Board whether it arose from incapacity of of Trade a distinct salary of 5,0001. mind for the duties required to be per annum, and not encumber him discharged, or from whatever other with the duties and responsibilities cause, he did feel considerable of any other office. This, it was anxiety and hardship arising out of said, was necessary, because the the union of the two offices. It duties of the office required the was altogether erroneous to supundivided attention of the person pose that the occupation of the who might fill it; and the sum Treasurer of the Navy was merely could not be reckoned too high for to pay money. He was called upon a situation of so much labour and to exercise his discretion in every importance.
instance of a demand,' and 'to By all parties in the House, the sift the grounds of every claim. most willing honage was paid to Much anxiety, likewise, he could the great talents of Mr. Huskisson, not help feeling in that character,
from the great pecuniary respon- not able to discharge the duties of sibility attached to the office. The both with that satisfaction to his paymaster, was an officer fully own feelings with which every acquainted with all the details of public duty ought to be performed business, and perfectly familiar He would leave the question in with all the operations necessary the hands of the committee; the for the proper, and effective proposition now before it respect- , management of the department; ing himself was not one of his gwn but he had often asked himself seeking. whether, if any, casualty, were to Mr. Tierney admitted that the deprive him of the services of that Treasurership of the Navy was a assistant,
he was himself suffici, situation of much trust and anxently informed on all subjects con- iety, though certainly not a labor nected with the office, to conduct rious one, While he himself held the business with no better aid than it, he never found that he left that of the person whom he might any duty unperformed by attendappoint, his successor ? Such a ing one hour daily. The abolition person coming in a novice, it would of the office was the
very devolve upon the head of the thing he would propose ; and, cero department to instruct him in his tainly, the next last thing was, to duties; and he candidly confessed, give to government the disposal that, although exposed to all the of two great offices, one of 5,000l. pecuniary responsibility, and all and the other of 3,0001. a-year. the care, anxiety and loss of time, He remembered that when sine. which attended it, he was utterly cures were under consideration, incompetent to the instruction of the Treasurership of the Navy, şuch new officer. He could not and some other offices, were let say from his own knowledge, alone, on the ground that some whether, at that moment, matters high sinecures should be continued were going on right or wrong in for the purpose of remunerating his own office. From his entire the discharge of dụties to which confidence in the pay-master he no salary had been attached. It
the slightest doubt that was then understood that the Prem the business was conducted in the sident of the Board of Trade was, best possible manner ; but that per- sufficiently paid by the Treasurersuasion arose from his knowledge ship of the Navy, which was worth: of the particular officer, not from 4,0001. a-year. When Mr. Dünany acquaintance with the business das filled the two offices of Presie itself. The office itself was per dent of the Board of Control, and fectly agreeable, provided he could Treasurer of the Navy, he received devote due attention to it; the only the salary of the latter office. patronage attached to it, was of So it went on for six years; and, course desirable, and in its charac- during that time, not the least, ter, there was nothing that could difficulty had been felt by that be reckoned repulsive; but, although gentleman in executing the duties he certainly could not say that he of both. Perhaps there might be had not time, enough to discharge more trouble in the performance the duties of both offices, he could of them at present, it as most truly declare that, to whatever nagement of seamen's wills had, cause it might be owing, he was been transferred to the latter office,
had not t
For his own part, he thought that compromising the interests of the an arrangement might be entered public, by submitting to an undue into which would have the effect extension of the influence of the of satisfying all parties. It might crown in parliament. This might be so arranged, that, whenever be effected by raising the salary of the two offices were held by the the conjoined offices to 5,000l., or same person he should have a by attaching a salary of the same salary of 5,000l. a-year ; that the amount to the Presidency of the President of the Board of Trade Board of Trade, and allowing the should be allowed 3,000l. a-year, duties of the Treasurer of the Navy and an additional sum of 2,000l. to be performed by the paymaster. when he executed the duties of Mr. Canning said, that most of Treasurer of the Navy.
the difficulties which members had Mr. Calcraft, Mr. A. Baring, found, or conceived they had found, Mr. Abercromby, and Sir John in relation to this proposition, Newport, all acknowledged, that arose from considerations which the proposed remuneration was were connected exclusively with well deserved, and they would be the Treasurership of the Navy ; glad to see a vote to that effect but, if it could be made to appear carried unanimously through the that the President of the Board of House, to mark the sense univer- Trade had more than sufficient sally entertained of the great pub- occupation for one man, in the dislic services of the present Presi- charge of the duties connected with dent of the Board of Trade ; but his situation in the government of they could not aid a plan for in- the country-and that that situacreasing the patronage of the tion was one which from its nature, crown, under the cloak of his cha- could never be dispensed with in a racter and merits, by the creation commercial country like ours-it of a second office. The impossi- would follow that an adequate bility of performing the duties of provision should be made for the both offices was now discovered individual who held it; and that, for the first time, and had no ex- inasmuch as it was an office which istence in fact. Even the pecu- could afford to stand on its own niary responsibility attached to grounds, it ought also to have ata the Treasurership of the Navy tached to it a salary payable in its was an easy burthen; for the prin- own name. With respect to what cipal was never made liable for has been said of the Treasurership defalcations, where the frauds of the Navy (continued the Foreign committed by his subalterns were Secretary) and the assertion so reduly explained. They felt the peatedly made, that it is an office unpleasant nature of the situation frequently held in connexion with in which the committee was placed; other situations of a public nature, they entertained no desire to say I admit such has been sometimes any thing which might seem to the case ; but the practice has been impeach the deservedly high opi- by no means invariable. On the nion of the great zcal and singular contrary, it has been as often (intalents of the officer in question ; deed I might say oftener) held seand they would gladly be relieved parate from, as jointly with other from the dilemma of either appear- oflicial situations. True it is, that ing to under-rate his value, or of lord Melville held it at the same