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[CONFIDENTIAL]

TREATY OF COMMERCE AND CONSULAR
RIGHTS WITH GERMANY

HEARINGS

1.S. Congress. Senate, BEFORE THE

COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN RELATIONS.
UNITED STATES SENATE

SIXTY-EIGHTH CONGRESS

FIRST SESSION

ON

TREATY OF COMMERCE AND CONSULAR
RIGHTS WITH GERMANY

JANUARY 25, 1924

PART 1

Printed for the use of the Committee on Foreign Relations

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1924

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COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN RELATIONS.

HENRY CABOT LODGE, Massachusetts, Chairman.

WILLIAM E. BORAH, Idaho.

FRANK B. BRANDEGEE, Connecticut.
HIRAM W. JOHNSON, California.
GEORGE H. MOSES, New Hampshire.
MEDILL MCCORMICK, Illinois.

JAMES W. WADSWORTH, JR., New York.
IRVINE L. LENROOT, Wisconsin.
FRANK B. WILLIS, Ohio.

GEORGE WHARTON PEPPER, Pennsylvania.

CLAUDE A. SWANSON, Virginia.
KEY PITTMAN, Nevada.
JOHN K. SHIELDS, Tennessee.
JOSEPH T. ROBINSON, Arkansas.
OSCAR W. UNDERWOOD, Alabama.
THOMAS J. WALSH, Montana.
ROBERT L. OWEN, Oklahoma.

HENRIK SHIPSTEAD, Minnesota.

C. F. REDMOND, Clerk.

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The committee met, pursuant to call, at 10.45 o'clock a. m., in the committee room, Capitol, Senator Henry Cabot Lodge (chairman) presiding.

Present: Senators Lodge (chairman), Johnson of California, Lenroot, Pepper, Pittman, Robinson, Walsh of Montana, Owen, and Shipstead.

Also, Senator Jones of Washington.

The committee resumed the consideration of " Executive D," Sixtyeighth Congress, first session, a treaty of friendship, commerce, and consular rights with Germany.

STATEMENT OF HON. WESLEY L. JONES, A SENATOR FROM THE STATE OF WASHINGTON.

Senator JONES of Washington. Mr. Chairman, you kindly asked me yesterday to come before the committee this morning to discuss the provisions in this treaty that we have had up several times with reference to the merchant marine.

The CHAIRMAN. Yes.

Senator JONES of Washington. I have not had the time to make any special preparation, and have not read the proposed treaty with Germany. My understanding is that by this new treaty we are face to face with the proposition as to whether we are going to approve or denounce the favored-nation clauses in the treaty, or rather those clauses that prevent us from favoring our shipping in levying tariff duties on tonnage dues, or whether we are going to reject them in the new treaty and in any other treaty that may come up. Of course I recognize that we ought to treat with all countries substantially the same. Personally, I should like to see all of our treaties revised in this respect. My interest in that is based more upon our need of a merchant marine and the difficulties that we seem to have in getting one than upon anything else.

The CHAIRMAN. Will you allow me to interrupt you just a moment at that point?

Senator JONES of Washington. Certainly.

The CHAIRMAN. The State Department feel that all our commercial treaties need revision, and I think this may be said to be the first treaty which they are planning as an example of the general

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