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Tanxiety to scare it down by these terri" when we tell Mr. COBBETT, that the ble menaces of high misdemeanours and" deputation, although composed of high treason. The sagacious public highly respectable men, did not rewill not fail to perceive, too, that both present the metropolitan parishes ja the parties; that both sides of the" an official way, he will, we imagine, House, both battalions of the regiment, agree with us in opinion, that as a agree in this cry:"Dont refuse to mere assemblage of individuals, with50% pay taxes petition, address, shout for" out direct authority from the parishes us, , hiss our opponents; " say the one" to take the step in question, there was side: "Be quiet as mice in cheese:"" something even more than unceremosay the other side; but both sides say," nious in their visit to the Premier for It is criminal and horrible to suffer" the purpose of enlightening him as your goods to be seized in payment of" to the course which, in their opinion, ****your taxes." I leave your readers," he was bound to pursue,"

Sir, to guess at the reason why men who But now, we have something a great are in deadly hostility as to all other deal better than all this; for we have matters, agree so perfectly in this, Lord GREY's own account of the matI while I in the words of the sensible workmen of Maidstone, conclude with Vexclaiming," They are all tarred with 3 the same brush!"-I am, Sir, your most obedient and most humble serivant, WM. COBBETT.

ter given in his speech in the House of Lords, on Monday, the 17th inst., which account, according to the report which I find in the Morning Chronicle, was given in the following words: "I said "nothing of any period of adjournment, "I said nothing of a prorogation of It is but aéting fairly towards the Mi-" Parliament to the end of January nisters, whom God forbid I should wish" (till after Christmas was the stateto embarras or misrepresent, to insert the" ment)—I said nothing of time-I refollowing paragraph from the Courier," served to myself the power to exerremarking on this letter, which para- "cise my discretion on the advice, I graph appeared in the Courier of Mon- should give on that subject, and I day last, the 17th inst." Mr. COBBETT" think I have a right to claim from says The Courier does not deny" the public for my colleagues and my"that Lord GREY said the Parliament "self, whether that time form a long or "would be prorogued until after" a short one, whether it prove of the ** Christmas.' The Courier did deny" usual length or less that we have that Lord GREY said so, and denies it" taken that course which we think "still. We do not feel it necessary to "most conducive to the accomplishsay more on this part of the subject." ment of that object which we, as well "The account which we gave of the" as the public, most, anxiously desire. interview between Earl GREY and the" With respect to the Reform measure "Deputation was a correct one. It differ-" itself, I said there could be no ques❝ed from that of our morning contem-" tion that some alterations were neces66 porary in one point only our state-"sary-that it would be our duty to ment was one of fact, that of the Chro- consider what those alterations were "nicle one of inference. We reported" to be; but I repeated what I had said **"what Lord GREY said; the informant of" before, that I never would be a party "the Morning Chronicle communicated" to the recommendation of any meawhat he supposed Earl GREY meant." sure not founded on the same prin"As to the anger, as Mr. COBBETT calls " ciples as that which had been re"it, of the Courier against the deputa-"jected, and as effectual for the ac❝tion, we must assure that Gentleman" complishment of the objects which "that we intended none, whatever he" it was declared to have in view. (Hear, may think. We did say, and we say hear.) These were the expressions "still, that the visit to Earl GREY was "I used, except that when the Depuunceremonious in the extreme; and ties intimated in strong terms their

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"fears for the continuance of the public though I had all the reason that could "tranquillity, I told them the Govern- suggest itself to any mind, to array "ment expected that they and every myself in hostility against them, I have one should use their utmost efforts to upheld them, with respect to this men"repress disturbance and enforce obe- sure, from the first to the last, to the “dience to the laws; and that I trusted utmost of my power; and that it was "their exertions would be effectual, and not till the moment arrived when the that the Government would not be result of the interview with the deputa "driven to the painful necessity of tion aforementioned: gave me what I using the powers with which they deemed good reason for believing that were entrusted to preserve the tran- they themselves had abandoned the quillity by force, These were the measure, that I made the above-men"sentiments I uttered, and I trust, as I tioned communication in the Guild"said before, that whatever may be the hall. But, indeed, what have I more to "length of the prorogation, the people do to satisfy my readers of my most "will do us the justice to believe, we anxious desire to sustain them than "hare adopted, the course most con- referring those readers to the last Regis"ducive to the public welfare, and in ter, where they will see, if I did not do "our judgment most likely to promote as much to sustain Lord GREY as ever the object we have before us." was done by mortal man, I failed only from want of ability.

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Thus, the whole is come out; and my [readers will now clearly see the utility of Now, then, let us see how the matter my having made that statement which stands. When I closed my last Register, a very zealous and excellent reformer the general hope, and my particular urged me to make in the Guild-hall. hope, was, that Lord GREY had surHad it not been for that statement, we mounted all the difficulties which stood should have been groping about in the in the way of an immediate short prodark for another week or ten days, at rogation and an extensive creation of the least. But all the papers having peers; that being manifestly the only stated that I did not, in fact, go to vote way of carrying the bill to the satisfacat the Guild-hall, but went for the tion of the people. Now, however, purpose of filling the minds of the things are changed. Lord GREY is livery with suspicions of the motives of silent, indeed, with regard to the creathe Ministers, I think it right to de- tion of peers; but we are to have a longclare that I went solely for the purpose prorogation, and we are also to have a of voting, and that I should not have different bill; for different it must be given my vote at all, nor have gone to if there are to be "alterations" in it. the ball upon this occasion, except for With regard to the length of the prordthe purpose of showing, as far as Igation, I do not attach so much imcould show, my detestation of the con-portance to that as many people do; duct of the Court of Aldermen, for their because I know that the depression of arrogant conduct in wishing to set aside trade and agriculture; that that stagthe voice of the livery in this case, as nation or paralysis which has been asthey had done in the case of Mr. Alder-cribed to the suspense with regard to Dan SCALES, to the utmost of their the Reform Bill, cannot be removed by power. I had no wish whatever to the mere passing of that bill; and of excite any unjust suspicions with regard this fact every one will be satisfied when to the Ministers. When they brought he has read a letter from me to the in their bill, though it was not exactly boroughmongers, which will be found at what I wished, I saw in it too much of the end of this article. A part, indeed, good for any man of sense not to wish of the stagnation arises from the susit to become a law; and my readers will do me the justice to say that, though I had all the personal provoca tion that man could possibly have;

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a perfectly independent man, Me quite as and, therefore, the following remarks efficient it is to be equally effica, which he makes on the explanation of Cousand now, in the words of Lord Lord GREY, are y worthy of the attention GREY himself, it is to of 59 to be founded on of the public and still more worthy of the same as the former the attention of Lord GREY himself bill, and as effectual for the accomp We are e sorry to s to see from all this that lishment of the objects which it was the in all probability, will not declared to have in view 66 My GoD be a We can only repeat no short Why have we not something definite what we have said agam and again Why not say that it is to go to the same that the people have always been ready extent in point of suffrage and in point to do full justice to the motives of the of disfranchisement? Why not say tha Government. The people believe we are still to have Schedule A and them honourable and upright men Schedule B, and the copyhold and But confidence in honourable intenleasehold and ten-pound voters Why tions, and confidence in their ability not say ate and then, with to give effect to their intentions, are some reason, deprecate the refusal to quite distinct, Ministers may have pay taxes Alas! here is nothing grounds for confidence which the 19 dennite. We know that these were the public are not aware of; but we must grounds of the objections to the bill, state, frankly in the face of the people We know that these grounds will al of England, that the proceedings in ways confique with the majority of the the House of Lords, though highly Bresent Beer's und What reason have honourable to the character of the we to hope that a Bill will be passed by Ministry, do not tend to remove the those peers unless these great principles apprehensions of the people as to the and provisions of the bill be abandoned, ultimate fate of the measure, Ministers or unless a new creation of peers give a must have supposed they could carry majority in Taybar of the bill, or unless the measure, but they did not carry the present majority be converted by The Lords who outvoted them some decisive act on the part of the are still the determined enemies of the people 18 entertain an expectation people still hostile to all reform that Tade that the ball will be passed by the pre-As worth one Straw still ready to avail

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"themselves of whatever may turn up" there needed nothing but resolute refavourable to their views. It is of sistance on our part to subdue them immense consequence that the present into tranquillity!" And when the then should remain in power. Nay, new bill is brought in, they will ex-more, we have no hesitation in saying claim," What the devil do you stir up that the resignation of the Ministers" this thing again for, when the people are would have been the signal for revo-quiet and contented, are all paying lation throughout the country. We

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But it will be said, perhaps, that Lord GREY has it not in his power to make a new creation of peers, without which a short prorogation would be of There is this inevitable evil which no use. If he have not that in his power, must arise from a long prorogation: he should tell us so at once. Yes, but namely, that the people will be quiet or if he were to tell us that, it would: they will hot. If the latter, it is not be telling us, in so many words, that he necessary to describe the evil conse- has not the power of carrying the bill; quences; but one consequence may that he is unable to do it; that his source arise from unquietness, which, supposing of ability to do it has failed him; and it to show itself in any-thing like ge- this is what he should, in this case, have neral commotion in any one of the told the parochial deputation on Wedcounties, a panic is the consequence to a nesday night, the 12th of October, 1831. certainty; and if that take place, the That is what he should have told Ministers will be saved the trouble of them; that is what they should have bringing in a new Reform Bill; for all told us; and then we should all have would be confusion at the end of one seen clearly the ground on which we week. It is touch and go even now: stood. For, is it possible for us to beLord GREY has only to look at my lieve that, without such creation, and letter to the boroughmongers which is with a country tranquil and the people to follow this article: he will there see all paying their taxes, he can carry that the magazine only waits for the Schedule A and Schedule B, and the match; so that, all individual suffering 102. voters? As further illustrative of aside; all the possible works of Swing the very dubious meaning of the declaout of the question, here is one possible rations of Lord GREY with regard to the and not improbable consequence of a nature of the new bill, let me here inlong prorogation. On the other hand, sert the words of a letter from him to if the people be quiet; if all be tranquil, HOBHOUSE, dated on the 15th of Octoand, above all things, if the taxes be ber, in answer to a memorial of some readily paid: "There!" will exclaim sort which HOBHOUSE had conveyed the boroughmongers, "we told you the to him from some of the parishes:people were grown cool in the cause" Dear Sir,-I have had the pleasure of of reform! We told you that" receiving your letter of the 14th, with

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"the accompanying addresses from the are not pledged to support any other "electors of Westminster, from the bill, and, if it be absurd, as he is said to“ "parish of St. Anne, and from the have told the deputation, to think of" "householders of St. George's, Hano- proposing the same bill again, it is ten "ver-square.The expressions of ap-thousand times more absurd to believe "probation and confidence with which that the House of Commons, who "we are honoured in these addresses, pledged themselves to support the whole "have afforded the highest gratification bill, and nothing but the bill, will think "to my colleagues and to myself. It themselves pledged to support any other ' will be our most anxious wish to bill. Full nine-tenths of those who "merit a continuance of these senti- gave the pledges, are very likely to "ments, which we know can only be have wished the whole bill at the devil: "secured by a steady, consistent, and so that, here we have a House of Com"persevering conduct, directed to the mons, chosen for seven years, for the "accomplishment of a real reform in purpose, as the people thought, of "the representation of the people, not making a Parliamentary Reform, who "less efficient than that which has are not at all pledged to any reform "been so lately rejected. A bill for this this bill being once set aside; · and, 68 purpose will be offered to Parliament which the reader will dowell to re"immediately on the opening of the member, I venture to predict that the "next session, and in the meantime we new bill will suffer this House to sit før "hope we shall not be thought to claim the SEVEN YEARS OUT! Now, I "too large a credit in requesting you desire that prediction to be remembered. "to be assured that all our measures Oh, no! if the people do not know will be taken with a view to the most when they have got good representa "effectual means of ensuring the success tives, the representatives know when of this important object." Always they have got good seats; if the people indefinite; more and more indefinite do not know when they have got a good· at every step. And I should not wonder Parliament, the Parliament knows when if it were, by-and-by, to come, in the it has got good affairs to manage; and, language of the boroughmongers, to if they quit their seats before the end of. some reform.” the seven years, I shall be ready to con- fess that human nature is a great deal ‹ better than I now think it./CAPK

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Now, what I believe the intention to be, is this. First, I believe that Lord GREY finds that he cannot carry his But, my Lord GREY, is this STAND new creation of Peers; finds that he ING OR FALLING WITH THE cannot carry the whole bill ; finds that BILL! Is this to go off the stage of he can carry nothing which would not life with the glory of not having de dissatisfy ninety-nine hundredths of the parted from a pledge so solemn? Is people; and that, therefore, he intends the talk about quite as efficient," and to come to a compromise with the" equal efficiency." and “equally cał→ enemies of reform, giving that which "culated to answer all the purposes that will satisfy them, or, rather, that they" the bill was declared to have in view ; → i will submit to, seeing that it is impossi-is the introducing of a bill with alteble that they can come and také his “rations; "the "taking time to use “ place and carry on the Government" the means of getting a bill equal=“. quietly. They would turn him out im ly efficient with the other: " is this mediately; but that it is necessary to standing or falling with "the bill? their safety and tranquillity that he Standing or falling with the bill would should remain in, and thereby induce have been proposing at once a nece the people quietly to go on paying their creation of Peers sufficient to carry the tithes and their taxes. Let it be ob-bill; and, if that failed, to quit your served, that though there is a great post, and to leave the rejectors of the majority of the House of Commons bill to carry on the concern in your pledged to support the whole bill, they steall; "that would have been fulfilling

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