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May asked witness if he would take a fare to anatomical theatre, Webb-street, Southwark, Bethaal-green. Witness replied that he knew all the prisoners, and saw Bishop and would not, because he knew what May was.
May at the theatre on the Friday night, at George Hissing, a boy of about 12 years old, about half-past seven o'clock. They said that deposed that his father kept the Crabtree they had a very fresh male subject, a boy about public-house, in the Hackney-road. Saw on 14 years of age. Witness declined purchasing the Friday a chariot draw up opposite bis it. They came on the next morning, about father's house, which is near Nova Scotia. 11, and made the same offer, which was agaia gardens. Saw Williams standing on the fore declined. wheel of ibe chariot, talking with the coach Thomas Mills, dentist, of 32, Bridgehousemad. The chariot remained 10 or 15 minutes. place, Newingtoo-causeway, deposed, on the Sas Williams at that time coming from Nova 5th of Nov. May called on bim at about nine in Scotia-gardens, ių which direction he had the morning, and offered 12 human teeth, six gone : be got into the chariot. Witness saw from the upper and six from the lower jaw, a man, wbom he did not know, helping Bi. He asked a guinea for the set. Witness said shop, whom he did know, in carrying a beavy that one of them was chipped, and did pot sack. It was pat by Bishop, Williams, and belong to the same set. He replied, “ Upon the other man, into the chariot. Bishop and my soul to God, they all belonged to the same the other map tben got in, and the chariot bead not long since, and the body was never drove up Crabtree-row, which leads towards buried.” Afterwards discovered that some of Sboreditch church.
the flesh and pieces of the jaw adhered to the By the Court-Could not say that the teeth, and it appeared that much force had stranger was May. He knew Bishop and been used to wrench them out. Witness said Williams, who were at his father's house on that they were a yonog set. He replied, “ The the day that Williams married Bishop's fact is, that they belonged to a boy 14 or 15 daughter.
years of age." Thomas Trainer corroborated the last witness. By Mr. Curwood-He was sure that May
Ann Chaonel was passing the Crabtree on did not say that they looked as fresh as if they the above night. Saw three men get out of had never been buried. the chariot. They went down Nova Scotia. Augustus Bruu examined, by medium of an gardeas. One stopped and spoke to the interpreter-I knew a boy named Carlo Fera coachman, and then ran after the others. rari, and brought him from Italy two years Did not see them afterwards. The two first ago; he was about fourteen years old, and had smoek-frocks ou, and the other had a lived with me about six week's after he came pipe in bis mouth.
here. The 28th of July, 1830, was the last time Tbos. Davis, porter to the dissecting-room I saw the boy alive. Ha then lived at Mr. je Guy's Hospital, saw May and Bishop about Elliott's, No. 2, Charles-street, Drury-lade. On seven o'еlock on the Friday evening; May the 19th of November I saw the body of the brought in a sack, and asked him if he wanted boy in St. Paul's burial-ground, Covent-garto purchase a subject. Witness replied that he den, and I believe it to be the body of that did not, and they then asked him to let it boy; the size and the hair were similar, but remain till next morning. It was consequently the face was disfigured. locked up there during night. Saw them the Cross-examined-If I had known nothing next morning in the hospital, at about eleven about this occurrence, and had seen the body, o'clock. Left the hospital and found on his I should be of opinion he was
my own." return the sack, which appeared to contain a By Mr. Justice Littledale-He was in his dead body. Saw a portion of a small foot 15th year. I have not seen him for fifteen protruding through a hole of the sack; it months. He might have grown a little in that appeared like that of a youth or a womao. It time, but not much. did not appear large enough for a man's foot. By Mr. Curwood-At first sight, if anybody Could not swear to the sack produced. It was had asked me who the body was, the face was such a one.
so disfigured I could not tell, Cross-examined by Mr. CarwoodHad Joseph Paragalli swora-I get a living hy formerly known May and Bishop, but had playing an orgau and pipes in the street. i Bever seen Williams at that time.
knew Carlo Ferrari, and used to see him every James Weeks, assistant to the last witness, day in Charles-street, Drury-lane. His sister deposed to having given up the sack to them lived in Scotland, and died there. He came he also saw a hole in the sack, and saw a foot to London on the 22d of May, 1830, and I or a knee projecting through it; the sack was bave known him all that time; I last saw Tery like the one produced; when they took it him alive in the Quadraut, Regent-street, at away Williams and Shields were with May two o'clock on a Saturday, four weeks before and Bishop ; delivered the sack to them in the I saw his body at the station-house. When I same state as when be received it; May and saw hin in the Quadrant he had a little cage Bishop had each requested him not to allow round his neck, with two white mice in it. He either of them to have it without the other ; was in the habit of wearing a cap, but I cannot they took it away in a hamper similar to that say whether it was of cloth, leather, or skio. produced.
The leatber shade of the cap produced was of & James Appleton, curator of Mr. Grainger's foreign manufacture.
Mary Paragalli, wife of the preceding wit- he was taken into custody. I have often seen Dess, stated, that on Tuesday, November 1, Bishop there. I let the house No. 2 last July she saw the deceased in Oxford-street, near to the prisoner Williams, who then went by Hanover-square. He had a cage like a squirrel- the name of Head. Williams occupied it six cage, and two white mice in it. She did not or seven weeks, and it was afterwards occaspeak to him.
He wore a cap but she could pied hy a person named Woodcock. It was a not tell wbat sort of one it was. She had seen few weeks empty. There are gardens behind the body of that boy at the station-house in the houses, and low fences between, but there Covent-garden...
is a communication from No. I and No. 3 to Andrew Colla, of No. 4, Great Saffron-hill, No. 3, because there was a well for the use birdcage-maker-I knew the deceased boy, by of the whole in Bishop's house. There is 8 seeing him in the strects, and saw him lately privy at the bottom of Bishop's gardeo. 1 bave in Oxford-street. I have seeu the body at the seen, Williams several times at No. 3, after be station house, and believe it to be the body lelt No. 2. I have also seen Williams's wife of the boy I have seen in the streets. When I tbere. saw him in Oxford-street, he had white mice William Woodcock, a boy, stated that he in a cage, and a tortoise. The cap produced lived with his father, at No. 2, Nova Scotia. was similar to that which he wore. He also gardens, next door to Bishop's house; he knew wore a blue coat and grey trousers with a Williams, and bad seen him there ten times, large patch on the left knee of the latter. and had also seen Williams's wife washing in
(The trousers, which had been dug up in Bishop's house-saw Williams there two or Bishop's garden, were here produced.) three days before Guy Fawkes-day, walking
The witness examined them, and stated he in the garden smoking a pipe. believed them to be the same as those the de Abraham Keymer, landlord of the Feathers, ceased bad worn, and be pointed out the patch Castle-street, Bethnal-green, sworo-On the in the knee of theip.
night of Thursday, the 3d of November, BiJohn King, a boy, sworn-I shall be ten shop, and he believed Williams also, came to years old vext Christmas. I go to chapel, and my house. It was near 12 o'clock. My house know the consequences of telliog a lie. I live is about 200 yards from Nova Scotia-gardeus. at No. 3, Crabtree-road, facing the Bird-cage They had a quartern of rum and half a gallon public-house, and near Nova Scotia-gardens. of beer, and I lent them a can to carry it I remember one day when my mother wasbed, The can produced was that which he lent seeing a boy near Nova Scotia gardens. I he-them. lieve it was the Thursday before Guy Fawkes. Wm. Woodcock sworn-I went to reside day. I was looking out of the window, and at No. 2, Nova Scotia-gardens on the 17tke the boy had something, but my mother would October, next door to Bishop. Williams, I not let me go to see what it was. I believe it have reason to believe, also lived with Bishop. was a little cage that he had, and it was slung I lived in No. 2, until after the prisoners were from bis neck by a string. He was standing apprehended. I koow Williams, but did not still. He had a brown cap, with the leaf or know Bishop until I saw him at Bow-strecha shade lined with green, exactly like this cap The first Sunday I lived there I was digging (the one produced). I was looking at him for in my garden, when Williams told him to dig a few minutes.
in a certain spot, where he would find some Cross-examined. It was the first hoor win-lilies. Ou Thursday, the 3d of November, I dow from which I saw him, yet I could see went to bed about half-past nive o'clock. In the lining of his cap shade.
the course of the night, probably about four Martha King, the sister to the last witness, hours and a half after 'I'bad gone to bed, I aged eleven years, sworn-Ou the Wednesday was awakened by hearing footsteps, which I or Tbursday before Guy Fawkes-day she saw thougbt were at the back of my premises, but the Italian boy, as described by her brother. I distinctly heard three meu's footsteps in the He was not one minute's walk from Bishop's parlour of No.3 (Bishop's house). I remained house, and she had never seen him since. iu bed and heard a scuffle, which lasted for
John Randall, a labourer, sworu-I live near one or two minutes, at the furthest, and all Nova Scotia-gardens. On Thursday morning, was silent. The scuffling was in the same November 3, I saw the Italian boy, about nine room in which I heard the footsteps. After or ten o'clock, near Nova Scotia-gardens. He wards I heard Bishop's side door open, and was standing underthe window of the Bird-cage also beard the footsteps of two men. There public-house, and bad a box or cage, with two is a side door to Bishop's house. The persons white mice. He had on a blue coarse jacket, after leaving Bishop's house, I heard come a brown fur cap, but I did not notice his round to the front,' and pass by my house. trousers. The cap and jacket were similar to After they were gone, I heard the footstep of those produced.
one person in the house. When those two Sarah Trueby, wife of John Trueby, sworn. persoas returned to the house, I distinctly -My husband is landlord of Nos. 1, 2, and 3, heard the voices of three persons, one of which Nova Scotia-gardens, and I have been in the I knew to be that of Williams. After that all habit of letting the houses, and receiving the became still again, and I went to rest,
I let No. 3 to Bishop's wife in June, Cross-examined I believe the wall between 1830. Bishop and his wife resided there until the two houses is but four inches thick. The
struggle that I heard I considered at the time I vent-garden, detailed the voluntary declarato be a fainily quarrel.
tion made by Bishop, that he got the body By Mr. Justice Littledale-Not more than from a grave; but the reason of not telling a minute and a half elapsed froin the time of where the grave was, was on account of two the two men leaving till their return.
watcbined who knew of it, and had large fami. Hanoab Woodcock, wife of the last witness, lies. May, he said, also made a declaration sword-She stated that Bishop, his wife, and it was read, and stated that he had been to family, and Williams and bis wife, occupied the country, and brought home two subjects, No. 3, Nova Scotia-gardens.
which be took to Mr. Grainger's, and from Joseph Higgins, a new-police constable, thence to Guy's Hospital. He also related the sworo-On the 9th of November, in conse-public-house at which he had been, and of quence of some instructious, I went to No. 3, his meeting with Bishop and May; that Bishop Nova Scotia-gardeos; and on searching it, told hiin he had got a good subject, which I found two crooked chisels, a brad-awl, and he was offered eight guineas fur, and if he, able
. There appeared to be blood on the May, could sell it, he should bave all above brad-awl, which at that time looked fresh. 1 dine guineas for himself. This he agreed to ; searched May's premises, No. 4, Dorset-street, and his account of the subsequent transactions New Keot-road, on the 11th, and found a pair was similar to that in the early part of the of breeches, which had marks of blood on the evidence). The witness next read Williams's back part, wbich appeared to be fresh. There statement. was also a waistcoat with marks of clay on it. Mr. Wm. Burnaby, clerk of Bow-street On the 19th, I went again to Bishop's house Police-office sworo.-When the brad-awl was with James Wadey:
produced at Bow-street, May said, “ That is Mr. Mills, the dentist, was recalled, and the instrument with which I punched the teeth examined by Chief Justice Tindal—The teeth out." bad been forced out : I should think the brad John Kirkbam, police-constable, stated, that and now produced would afford great facility when the inquest was sitting he had charge of in forcing out the teeth.
the prisoners in the station-house ; behind The evidecce of Higgins was then continued where they sat there was a printed bill posted When we went to Bishop's house on the referriug to the inurder ; Bishop looked at 19th, we searched the garden behind the the bill, and then leaned over Williams to house
. We first attempted it with an irou rod, speak to May; he said to May, “it was the but finding sumething impeding it, I desired blood that sold us." Bishop thea got up, and Wadey to dig, and a jacket, trousers, and looked a second time at the bill, aud referring small shirt, found; that was about five yards to the words “marks of violence," he said from the back door. In another part we dug those marks were only breakings-out in the up a blue coat, a pair of trousers with the skin. braces attached to them, a striped waistcoat, Mr. Thomas, the superintendent, was rewhich appeared to be a man's, and taken is called by Mr. Bodkin-When I first saw the for a boy, with marks of blood on the collar body there were patches of dirt on several and shoulder, and a shirt that was toro up parts. There were also marks on the left arın the front. (The witness here produced all those as though they were the impression of fingers, things.). The clothes are those which would and it appeared to me as if tbe chest had heen be useful to boys like the deceased. There pressed in. There was a stream of bloud from were asbes over the place where the clothes the forehead down the face to the breast. bad been buried.
Mr. Adolphus stated that this was the case James Wadey, also a copslable, corroborated for the prosecution. the last witness's testimony.
Mr. Davies was recalled, and stated that he Edward Ward, a little boy, six and a half had the day before purchased two bodies of years old, was next examined-My father lives the prisoner May. in Nova Scotia-gardens. I remember last Guy The prisouers having then been severally Faskes-day, at which time I was in the habit called upon for their of going to school. I remember my mother
DEFENCE, giving me a ball holiday, but I don't kuow Bishop stated that he was 33 years old, and
hat day it was. I woot to Bishop's house. had a wife and three children.' He was forBishop has three children, two of them boys. inerly a carrier at Highgate, but for the last On that day I saw the children in the house, twelve years he had obtained a living by sup and they showed me a cage with two little plying the various Hospitals aud Auatomical wbite mice; the cage turned round, I had Schools with dead bodies, but he declared that often played with Bishop's children before, but he never was in any manner concerned in Bever saw them with a cage of white inice improperly obtaiuing subjects. He had been
in the babit of getting bodies from workJoko Ward, an elder brother of the preced- houses, and sometimes with the clothes reing witness, stated that what his brother had maining on them. All the gardens about just related wouk place on Friday, 4th Novem- Nova Scotia-gardeos were easy of access, and ber. His brother on that day told him what were only divided by a low, dwarf railing. As
to the wearing-apparel found in the garden, Alt. Curder, vestry-clerk of St. Paul's, Co. he knew nothing ; but, regarding the cap, he
he had seen.
said he should prove that his wife purchased it said at Bow-street. The blood on the breeches of Mrs. Doddeswell, who kept a sale-shop is found at May's resideuce was not perfectly dry Hoxton Old Town. As respected the prisoners when they were found. Williams and May, they knew nothing of the
Mr. Elward Wm. Doosen, a surgeon, stated manner in which he got the body, and he de- that he had been subpænaed by the prisoners, clared that he only got it in the way by which but he was not aware that he could state anysubjects were usually obtained.
thing. The prisoners' counsel declined to Williams alleged that he knew nothing of examine bim. the means by which the body was procured by After this, the Chief Justice summed up the Bishop, who invited him to go to the King's evidence. The Jury retired to cousider of College. He, Williams, was not in the habit their verdict at eight o'clock, and returned of dealing with subjects, but got his living by into Court at half-past eight. working as a glass-blower.
They returned a verdict of Guilty against May said be was formerly a butcher, but for all the prisoners. the last six years had followed the trade of Within a minute after the verdict being dealing in subjects and supplying them to pronounced, it was cominunicated to the mula hospitals. On the day wbeu he inet Bishop at titude outside that had assembled to the numthe Portune-of-Warpublic-bouse,it was merely ber of several thousands, and they for some by accident, when Bishop asked him where he minutes interrupted the business of the Court could sell a good subject, stating that he had by their loud cheering and buzzas. been offered eight guineas for it. He (May) told him, as was the fact, that he had sold two to Mr. Davies, at tea guineas each, the day before, and he would try if Mr. Davies would buy that one. Bishop told him he should
MR. DRUMMOND AND have all above nine guideas for himself, and
LORD GREY. then he agreed to endeavour to sell it. He assured the Jury that he never asked, and, of ON THE SUBJECT OF REFORM. course, he never knew how Bishop got possession of the hody.
A letter, published by the former Rosina Carpenter stated that she lived in of these gentlemen, in the shuffling and Nag's Head court, Golden-lane. On Thurs- bloody old Times newspaper, last week, day, Nov. 3, between four and five o'clock in has attracted a good deal of public atthe afternoon, May came to her house, and remained with her till nearly twelve o'clock tention; has produced a sort of challenge the next day, not once going out during that from Lord Grey; and has drawn a long time. Cross-examined— May has several times nicle. The letter arose in this way:
commentary from the Morning Chropassed his nights with her; she did not kuow Mr. Drummond was, it seems, at 3 whether he was married or not.
Sarah Trinsley, who was examined for the meeting of bankers and others, who prosecution, was called by Mr. Barry. She differed upon the question of reform; had never secu' any wbite mice in Bishop's and who met for the purpose of coming house.
Mary Doddeswell, wife of George Doddes- to a compromise, if they could, as a well, of 56, Hoxton Old Town, sworn—I keep sort of prelude perbaps to a sort of a clothes and sale shop for the secvod-hand compromise between the hostile factions, goods. My husband is a journeyman pastry- in the state. Some person, under the cook. I know Bishop's wife, and sold her a cap two years ago ; I should know it again signature of A. B., attacked Mr. Drumnow; it was a cloth cap with a black front mond, in the bloody Times, for his con(the cap produced for the prosecution was a duct at this meeting ; Mr. Drummond,
in his own name, sent his answer to the Mrs. Doddeswell-1 never sold but one cap insert Mr. Druinmond's letter, and
Bishop-My wife purchased two caps of her. same sanguinary vehicle. I will first to Mrs. Bishop. I know nothing of Bishop or bis family, but that his daughter lived servant then the correspondence between him with me twelve months ago.
and the irritated Lord Grey; after Mary Anne Hall, of No 4, Dorset-street, which I will insert the sour commentary New Kent-road, where May lived, stated that of the Chronicle upon Mr. Drummond's on the 30th October, May went into the cuuntry, and I saw no more of him until the fol. I letter, and will make my remarks upon lowing Wednesday night, and then he went to that, passage by passage, as I proceed. bed. The next morning he went out, and did First, then, let us take Mr. Drummond's not return until the Friday night at bali-past letter, which, slightingly as the Chro Il o'clock.
Mr. Thomas stood up, and addressing the nicle speaks of it, is worthy of a good' Court, said he wished to repeat what he had deal of attention.
“Sir,- It would have been more creditable ployment in our towns; by repeal of the Corn to 'A. B.' to have discussed his differences Laws, and of all monopolies and restrictions on with me where I was preseut, instead of depre- trade; aud by restoring our foreign policy to catiug discussion there, and then stating its uniform course, froin the days of Elizabeth anonymously and falsely in your journal that to those of Lord Londonderry, which was to I was au intruder into a meeting to which I support small free states against their powerful bad received a special invitation, and had, neighbours; and, above all, by taking effectual consequently, come from the country at much i measures to liquidate the public debt, which inconvenience to attend. There was gross must cramp the energies of the country so imposition in calling that an accommodation long as it exists; and, lastly, by a reform of meeting,' wheu nothing was intended by A.B. the House of Commons as efficacious as that but tbat they who were kdown to disagree now proposed, and yet not revolutionary. with him should sign, at his dictatiou, a docu This, and much more that cannot now be ment which had been previously approved of stated, must be done before the nation can be by the Ministers as a perfect exposition of their tranquillized. It is shaken too deeply to its late bill. Another false pretext held out to very foundations to be calmed merely by deurge us to sign was the distressed state of the clarations of merchants and bankers, or by country. It is iudeed distressed—that is, the Wbig expedienrs of violating aublemished working classes are oppressed to a degree corporate rights like those of Guildford, and of almost past further endurance; but he must collecting the deputed wisdom of aggregated have a fool's head or a traitor's heart,' who dirt aod disease from Brighton and Cheltensays the late misuamed Reform Bill would ham. Nothing sbort of what is above equ. give them the smallest relief. The bill took merated can eud otherwise than ip increased pwwer from the crown, aud gave it to delegates discontent; and since there arises from no side of the middling classes, thereby converting the discretion fit to guide us, we have only to the monarchy into a bad republic, but left the stand prepared for the crash which the inworking classes just where they were. The fatuated projects of our rulers must produce, passivas of all ranks have been excited by and see iu their blindness the judicial band of Lords Grey and Brougham agaiost the ininis- an offended God, whose counsels they having ters of religion and the hereditary councillors despised, he at length has left them to their of tbe king who opposed them, in order that owi. tbe upbolders of our ancient institutions might “ Beyying A. B.,' in which prayer you; be intimidated into becomiog access sries to Sir, will no doubt joia, to choose some other their new constitution; and it is vainly ima- arena thau your colunus for the further discuss gined that the labouring classes will submit sion of these subjects, to be discarded and to siuk again into their
“ I am, your obedient servant, former degradation as soon as they shall have
" Henry DRUMMOND. served the purposes of these profligate polili. “ Albury Park, Nov. 26.” cians. I wish political power to remain with the aristocracy, because liy such meaus alune Next came the challenging affair, in can the nonarchy exist : if that power is to the following words, as published under be transferred to another class, it is revulu- the authority of the Duke of Richmond, tion; to give that power to all classes, bas who, it appears, was the bearer of Lord justice and consistency; to give it to one only, has Deither.
Grey's letter to Mr. Drummond. “No one measure of relief to the suffering labourers has yet been proposed by the Mi
Albury Purk, Nov. 29. Risters, while the people have been cajoled by Duke of Richmond, that some expressions in
“ MY LORD, I regret io learn from the tbe phantom of retorm. True relief is only to be obtained by the repeal of all taxes on ar- my letter to the editor of the Times of this ticles used for private consumption such as
day's date, are construed by your Lordsbip to malt, hops, candles, leather, &c. This might imply au at tack upon your Lordship’s motives. bave been done bonestly by laying on a gra: ihan to impute anything to your Lordship
As uvihing was sarther from my object or wisb duated property-tat, increasing as it ascended; individually, while i reserve the right of deby firing the amount of paper currency by Act of Parliament, and making it legal tender ;
claring myself freely on your Lordship's public by disbanding the whole of the standing army,
measures, have only to express the sincere excepting the household troops aud the ariile regret I feel at any expression of mive having lery; and this might have been done safely
given unintentional pain to your Lordship.
“ I bave the benonr to be, by embodying fencibles and militia, in each county, and training them every year, by
your Lordship's obedient servant,
« HENRY DRUMMOND. which domestic peace would be preserved, as
“ To Earl Grey." well as security from fureigu aggression ; by enacting Poor Laws for Ireland, by which the
“ Downing-street, Nov. 30. Irish geutry would be compelled to support “ SIR-I have had the honour of receiving their own people, instead of sending them over your letter of yesterday, which bas been bere to esclude any extra labourers which our brought to me by the Duke of Richmond, and villages may contain from the means of em- beg leave to express my sutisfaction at your