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the same power, understanding, knowledge, and immediate revelation from heaven, that the apostles were in, and they that are in another, cannot understand that gospel. He confesseth to the nation, in his answer to some queries, and in his discourse upon the holy spirit, that they have not the same knowledge, gift, nor immediate revelation, as the apostles had; so he hath made himself manifest, (and the rest of the priests,) that he is in the apostacy, and has not the gospel the apostles had.
P. He saith, page 11, “An external means enables them to open the meaning of the gospel.'
A. An external opens not the eternal; this all may judge that are in the fear of God, and that is it which kecps them from being deceived and seduced. He saith, the external opens the eternal,” which is false; for the eternal opens the external, and the gospel is eternal, and that which reacheth to the soul, which is immortal; and all they are seduced and seducers, that think and say the external must open the eternal.
P. He saith, Learned men are those who must give the sense of the scripture.'
A. Pilate was a learned man, and had Hebrew, Greek, and Latin, and knew not the sense of the scripture, who crucified Christ. And the learning of God is that which knows the scriptures by the spirit that gave them forth, and not the confounded natural languages. And the query to him was, “whether any were to be called master ? His answer is, Master is a title of civil honour.' A Pharisee, a transgressor of Christ's commands, Matt. xxiii. that tramples upon Christ's command and his doctrine, and makes the doctrine of Christ uncivil. And this is your lordship and usurped authority, who would lord it over God's heritage; but he is throwing you out as dung upon the face of the earth.
P. He saith, The Pharisees paid tithes when they neglected the law of God.'
A. Do not all you so? Is not this your condition that take tithes, whose fruits in the nation make it manisest ? And the apostle said the priesthood was changed that took tithes, and the apostles denied the Pharisees that took them; but you take them by compulsion and carry to prison till death, if you cannot get them; and in this you are worse than the Pharisees and first priesthood that took tithes, who denied Christ was come in the flesh.
P. He saith, “that children are of the kingdom of God, and yet they must be born again before they can enter into the kingdom of God,' page 17. and 'sprinkling of infants is baptism.'
A. Which there is no scripture for. He saith, Christ commanded
both his disciples and them to take and eat this,' and yet they never heard his voice!
P. He saith, "To give an answer without imagination or consequence, is without reason or judgment.'
A. There is a reason and a judgment out of imaginations and consequences to be given, which is in truth, and out of the doubtful dispute.
P. He saith, While men be upon the earth the body of sin is not wholly subdued.'
A. Contrary to the apostle's doctrine, who saith, they were made free from sin.' And this is to deny the circumcision which puts off the body of sin; this is to keep out of Christ the second Adam, in the first Adam, in the fall.
P. He saith, The contents of the gospel are things of the spirit of God attained by external means; and the apostles were called of God immediately, which (he saith) no man must hope for since.'
A. Then you have all followed your own spirits, and are found amongst the number of the false prophets, and those that ran and the Lord never spake to them; and the things of the gospel and of the spirit, are not attained by external means.
P. He saith, We must not look for an immediate extraordinary miraculous teaching from the Lord.'
A. Yet he saith, all men are taught of God;' what confusion is here! The grace of God which brings salvation hath appeared unto all men, and teacheth us, and this he calls an outward teaching by the Lord Jesus Christ. Is that which brings salvation outward ? All in truth may judge this and try thy spirit. And the teachings of the Lord are not mediate but extraordinary, above all yours, who are men got up since the days of the apostles.
P. He saith, They shall teach no more every man his neighbour, saying, know the Lord, but they shall all know me from the least to the greatest;' and he saith again, "The most knowing man hath not attained such a perfection of knowledge in his gift, as not to need teaching.'
A. So he is one that believes not in the promise. They that love, are of God, and they that love know God, and they that love not God, know not God. Here are the spirits of the world made manifest, and the spirit of God in his saints, from thy confusion; so they that know God are taught of him.
P. He saith, “ The anointing within people, is a measure of spiritual wisdom.'
A. And yet they attain to the gospel by external means! It is only those that give heed to such spirits as these, that go from the anoiating within them, and do not take heed to the anointing; so go from
the eternal means to the external means, and from the immediate to the mediate. But by the immediate they are now tried and seen to be such as the apostle saw come in, who have since been over the world. But they are now made manifest.
P. He saith, 'Sprinkling of infants is God's ordinance.'
A. For which they have no scripture, but a tradition, which hath been taught men for a doctrine, by those who cannot show where God commanded it.
P. He saith, page 31, For the spirit within, we are not so blindfolded to follow the dictates thereof.' And we draw men from the spirit within. It is human learning that distinguishes the naked truth, whereby it is clearly seen.' And calls them “blind that say otherwise: and cannot distinguish persons from houses.” He confesseth “it is contentious to go to law.'
A. Here he hath given judgment upon all the priests, the rest of his fellows, who in most parts of the nation are troubling people for tithes, and their maintenance. And you are blindfolded who lead people from the spirit within, who are ravened from it, and have the sheep's clothing. Human learning is from the earth, from the ground, and that cannot distinguish the naked truth, and with that the Pharisees could not see Christ, as you cannot see the light which hath enlightened every man that cometh into the world, nor the sons of God who are led by the spirit.
P. He saith, “The scripture was given forth in the Hebrew, Greek, and Latin, which we truly say is the original. And to attain spiritual wisdom by depending upon miraculous revelation from heaven, is tempting the good spirit of God.'
A. And here he is contrary to the apostle. What he had received from the Lord he declared, and David, and all the prophets of God, waited upon the Lord for counsel, and teaching, and revelation; and this he calls a temptation, whereas no one knows the son but by revelation, nor the Father, nor the scripture; not a Hebrew, nor a Greek, nor a Latinist; but they that think to find it out by natural languages are in the temptation, from the spirit of God which reveals the deep things of God, which to all you inward raveners, is miraculous. And as for the rest of thy confusion and lies, they are not worth the mentioning, but shall cover thyself. In the day of thy judgment, the witness shall answer and manifest thy clothing.
John Wallace, priest of Kendal; William Moore, priest of Kellet;
and priest Walker. Their principles as followeth.
P. They say, 'that the devil is transforming himself into an angel of light, and this is to oppose the light of Christ.”
A. The light which every man that cometh into the world is enlightened with, is that which satan is out of, and in you that are out of the light, which Christ doth enlighten every man that cometh into the world with, may satan transform himself, who transformed before the apostles' decease, and since their decease it hath been he that hath made this work among all creatures, under whose power you are, in the night of the apostacy. And he hath been the cause of destroying people, who is out of the light in which is the unity. without the spirit, to sing words made ready to hand, the Jews could do that, whose songs were to be turned into howling; but to sing in the spirit, there is the melody made to the Lord, where hymns, psalms, and spiritual songs are known. But to say that Christ and the apostles sung David's psalms turned into metre as you do now, a thing made ready to their hands, this would make as though the apostles and Christ could not sing without David's psalms, and would put every one beside the spirit; for Christ was Lord of David, and the apostles preached the end of David, and in that they sung. And every man that cometh into the world hath a light from Christ, and that which may be known of God is manifested within man, though Jews and Gentiles be from it, guiding all minds, it will bring them to sing in the spirit, as David, Solomon, Christ, the apostles, and the saints; and in this let all make melody to the Lord in their hearts, all having motion and breath from the Lord. So let all praise the Lord in the spirit, and in it unto him sing, who in him move, and live, and have their being.
Gawen Eglesfield's principles, as followeth.
P. THAT his call into the ministry is mediate.'
A. So he is not a minister made by the will of God, which is imme diate; nor a minister made by the spirit, which is immediate. Mediate is natural, and the natural man knows not the things of God, for they are spiritually discerned.
P. And he saith, “The law is not changed that gave tithes.'
though the pope set up another law, since the apostacy from the apostles.
Ambrose Dickinson's principles, as followeth.
P. He saith, “That there is nothing within man, but what puts him on a covenant of works.'
A. There is faith within man that works by love, and there is Christ within man, and God will dwell in man, and walk in man, and the son of God is revealed within. Dost thou liken all these to things without in the covenant of works, which ends them all, and was before they were?
P. He saith, " There is no knowledge of Christ in this generation but by the scripture.'
A. Many may have the scriptures, and not know Christ; they will not give the knowledge of Christ. That which comes from him, and shines in the heart, doth give the knowledge of Christ the light. And the Jews had the scriptures, but had not the knowledge of Christ, as you do not know the light that doth enlighten every man that cometh into the world, the ear being stopped to that of God in you, and your eyes closed. And it is not the spirit, and the letter of it cannot give life.
P. John Stockdale said, "The scriptures must try the spirits.'
A. “The spirit was before the scriptures were; and the Jews had the scriptures, yet knew not Christ, but crucified him; and that must try the spirits that gave forth scriptures.
P. He saith, “The spirit and the scriptures, are one and the same thing.'
A. Scriptures are writings, as the priests and professors say, and Christ was before they were given forth, which owns it, and is when it ends and is fulfilled.
P. Priest Heywood in Lancashire said, “it was blasphemy to say that the church was in God.'
A. Contrary to the apostle, 1 Thess. i. 1. who said, "the church was in God.'
P. Again he said, “It was blasphemy to say, that God dwelt or walked in his saints.'
A. Contrary to the apostle, 2 Cor. vi. 16. Eph. iy. 6. who saith, 'God will dwell in you, and walk in you;' and “ye are the temples of God.'