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not called the tithing of herbs, for the spirit that gave forth the scrip tures brought to these.
P. And the light within is darkness; and I never read of the churches of the saints that spoke by two.'
A. The apostles' doctrine to the Corinthians was, that they might speak by two or three; and the light within, which is the light of Christ, which doth “enlighten every man that cometh into the world, the darkness cannot comprehend it, though it shine in it, till it shine forth in the heart, to give the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.'
P. “And that the kingdom that is in the saints, is in the Pharisees, I deny.'
A. The same that is in the saints is in the Pharisees, in measure, though it be but as a grain of mustard seed, which is like to the leaven, little.
P. "The state of arising from sin to grace is never called a resurrection.'
A. They that arise from sin to grace, out of the first Adam into the second Adam, come into the resurrection, and the second death shall have no power over them; and the saints come to judge the world.
P. «Such as trust to a light within them, forsake the holy oil, the Lord's spirit that speaks in the scriptures.'
A. The Lord's spirit spoke in them that gave forth the scriptures, who had the holy oil, the light within them. And the spirit speaks not from the scripture, but by that which gave it forth, which is the author of it.
P. 'I deny that any have a light within them to attain to the measure of God and Christ, as they that have the writings.'
A. None attain to the mystery of God but by the light which comes from Christ the mystery, though they may have the scriptures.
P. “They that will not put off the hat, but say thee and thou to people, this is a sin of their own devising.'
A. Thee and thou is proper language, and a form of sound words: the hat is earthly Adam's honour, that is earthly, which the second Adam never looked for, but gives this mark to know an unbeliever bs, who seeks it and looks for the honour below.
P. • Is it not a shame for a boy to say thou to his father, and thou to his mother?
A. Jephtha's daughter thoued her father, the judge of Israel, and be did not look upon it as a shame. And, the children of God thoued their Father, and the Lord never rebuked them for it, as we read is scripture.
And as for all the rest of the lies and slanders in thy book, they are
not worth mentioning, but to redeem truth from them; and that none at all may make them their refuge, for they shall feel it, if they do, at the day of judgment.
Some of Philip Bennet's principles, called Minister at Cartmel in
P. He saith, “That none know another to be the child of God.'
A. Which is contrary to the scripture. 1 John iii. 'Ye are the sons of God.' And the apostles knew others to be the children of God, as the ministers of God do now.
P. Again he saith, that he did not know why God did make a difference amongst men,' &c.
A. So is ignorant of the ministry, which puts a difference betwixt the precious and the vile.
P. And he said, “None can give a reason of the election, or know the elect of God.'
A. And so is out of the apostle's doctrine, who said, "they were elected before the foundation of the world;' and ignorant of the scriptures, which say, Christ is the elect.
P. Again he said, "he would never exhort people to take heed to that of God which is made manifest in them.'
A. Contrary to the apostles doctrine, Rom. i. Cor. ii. 4. Colos. i. 1 John ii. 27. Rom. x. S. who brought people to the light within them, and to the son within them, Christ within them.
Some of Adam Sands' principles.
P. He said, "He hated that which may be known of God is made manifest in man, which God hath showed unto him,"' ' and said, that was the Quakers' foundation. And it was told him they were the apostle Paul's words, and he was showed the place in the Bible, and bid look at it; he said again, he hated it.'
A. So he is found in the nature of the Jews and Gentiles that went astray, who were not like to retain God in their knowledge, while they were reprobates from that which may be known of God, made manifest in them, and hated it. Neither art thou, nor any professor upon the earth, like to receive God or Christ, spirit or faith, while thou hatest that of God in thee.
P. And he called those with him, brethren and servants of God; and yet a little before said, they had no grace in them.'
A. Contrary to the apostle, who said, the brethren's hearts were stablished with grace: and the grace of God which brought salvation appeared to all men,' which taught the saints, which you have turned into wantonness.
P. And he confessed, that they were more and more ignorant of God, and blinder and blinder every day than other.'
A. We do believe it. How should it be otherwise with you, who say ye are brethren, and have no grace in you, and hate that of God in people? But the grace of God which brings salvation hath appeared to all men,' which lets them see ungodliness. So in that the liar speaks in thee; for that which lets every one see ungodliness is the grace.
Roger Atkinson, reader at Turver chapel in Lancashire.
P. THAT the letter of scripture was God:' and it was asked, if the letter, paper, and ink, was God? and he said, "it was God,' and brought 1 John to prove it. And again he said, "the letter was the word of God.'
A. The scriptures of truth are the words of God, and were all learned of God, and are writings; and Christ the word comes to end all these words, and all end in him. So the scriptures are not God; but they were holy men of God, who learned of God, that spoke them forth, for he was before scripture who gave them forth.
Richard Stoaks, called minister at Grayrig chapel in Westmoreland.
P. He said, that the scriptures are God.' And again, that the scriptures are a God. And afterward he set his foot upon it, and stamped upon it, and said, it was but Hebrew copies, and Greek copies, and they were not the scriptures,' and said, they were not true,' before near a hundred people.
A. And yet a God! and they God! But the scriptures of truth are the words of God; and the carnal man and the devil who are out of the truth, may get scriptures ; but stand against the word, Christ, that
fulfils them. And the scriptures of truth are not God, nor a God, but are his words that cannot be broken, and must be fulfilled by Christ the word.'
George Johnson, priest of Orford, said,
P. •That the light which John bare testimony to, is the light of nature.'
A. Which is contrary to the scriptures; for the light which doth enlighten every man that cometh into the world, was before any natural lights or created lights were.
P. That the Americans were never ordained for grace and salvation; and that the grace of God had never appeared to the Americans.'
A. Which is contrary to the scriptures, which say, "The grace of God which brings salvation hath appeared to all men,' &c. And, 'I will give him for a light, a covenant to the Gentiles, a new covenant to the house of Israel and Judah, and that he may be my salvation to the ends of the earth.' And many in America have received truth and salvation.
P. • That none can be free from sin, nor perfect, whilst they live upon the earth; and that none are able to keep the commands of God.'
A. So he hath denied the one offering, and shown himself to be out of the love of God, and the circumcision of the spirit, which puts off the body of sin, and out of the blood of the new covenant.
These are the principles of the priests of Orkney.
P. JAMES MORRISON said, “that Christ which is within men is a devil:' and that all who said they had Christ within them, were devils and witches,' and so bid the people take notice of it.'
A. Contrary to the apostle to the Colossians, who said, Christ in you, the hope of glory.' And to the Corinthians he said, Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates. And they are in the witchcraft, and of the devil, that have not Christ in them, and are reprobates; and this was and is the doctrine of the ministers of God.
Witnessed by Luke Liddall, soldier, with all the rest of the priests' hearers.