ever feels the sin, shall feel the guilt of it. And the blood of the seed cleanseth, it makes free from that which the law takes hold of; and the blood of the seed cleanseth from sin, from the power and stain of it, and then the guilt of it is gone; the seed destroys death and him that hath the power of it, which is the devil; and where this is known the fulness is known which is above degrees, that which degrees end in.

P. It is the tang of popery, that a man may fall from saving grace.' A. 'The grace of God that has appeared to all men, which brings salvation,' is saving, and such thou and many papists turns into lasciviousness and wantonness. That which brings salvation is saving. So you are turned to be murderers of one another about scriptures, which was not the practice of them who lived soberly, righteously, and godly, who denied the worldly lusts and ungodliness, but their hearts were established in grace which was their teacher; but you and papists that live wildly, and ungodly, and unrighteously, in the lusts of the world, that are fallen from the saving grace, your fruits, your actions daily declare and show it; and so you are talkers of grace, which is turned into wantonness both among you and the papists; your unseasoned hearts and words make it appear.

P. We shall not see Christ as he is till he comes to judgment, then and not before we shall see him.' And then he adds, Every man to that hath this hope purifies himself, which also argues that he is not pure and perfect, but only in hope.'

A. You, where you are, see him not, nor know him as he is, we do believe you; but the saints, the true church whom he is the head of, whom he is in the midst of, and in whom he is. And Christ told his disciples, they had known him; they knew the son, and had the son, and they had the Father also; and he that had not, had not life. And they had handled and seen. And hope in itself is pure, and that is it which purifies man, and makes him pure, as God is pure. The hope now is pure in itself, a distinct thing, and that is to make man pure as God is pure.

P. God may justly require his due of man, though man cannot give it.'

A. God requires no more of man than he gives.

P. That the Quakers send men to the light within them to be perfected, which is no better than darkness.'

A. Thou that sendest men to any thing, but not to the light within them, thou keepest them out from perfection in utter darkness; and none come out of utter darkness to perfection, but by the light within them; and so growing up in the light, they grow up in that which is perfect, and so in the fulness which is Christ, which is the perfection

of God.

God, which end in Christ; and they do not speak of a declarative word, but you in your nicety.

P. There is a two-fold coming of the gospel, the one in word, the other in power.'

A. The blind people thou wouldest here make believe that the word was not the power, which word and power are one, for Christ is the word, and Christ is the power of God; his name is called the power of God, and he that ministers the word, ministers the power of God, and the gospel.

P. The saints that stood upon mount Sion, that followed the Lamb, those saints that were without guile before the throne of God, are to be understood in the justification and not in sanctification, that are spoken of in the Revelations.'

A. Here thou hast manifested thyself to be an accuser of the brethren who are justified, and said to be without fault. Now they who are justified, are sanctified and justified; it was said, in their mouths was no guile; they were not defiled; and now these that have no guile, and are justified, and were not defiled with women, such are sanctified. So that thou judgest of things that are too mighty for thee; and meddlest with things that are too weighty, and bringest judgment upon thy own head; whose measure is measured, and weights are tried; and thou art of them that are found too light.

P. He that is born of God sins not after the same sort as them that are of the devil.'

A. He that commits sin is the servant of sin, and he that commits sin is of the devil; and he that is born of God doth not commit sin, for the cannot, because he is born of God, born of that nature which cannot sin: and those who sin are of the devil, of the same nature of their fa ther; but he that is born of God doth commit sin at no rate, for he is of the same nature of his Father.

P. As John saith: as he is, so are we in this present world, that scripture, saith he, cannot be so in the latitude of it.'

A. I believe you; for from the men of your generation, it was not given forth: but they that are the sons of God understand it as it is, and believe it as it speaks.

P. Christ was holy from his conception, so are not we,' saith he, 'but we are sanctified in time. Christ was holy, and so are not we, for there still remains the indwelling of sin in us.'

A. And some were sanctified from the womb, and some children were holy that were born of the believers. Christ in the male and in the female, is as he was in his eternal generation; and is the same, and remains; and is the sanctification, and he sanctifies the unsanctified sons of Adam in the transgression, and Christ changeth them, and