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SUPPORT OF PUBLIC SCHOOLS

HEARINGS

BEFORE THE

COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

SEVENTY-FIFTH CONGRESS

FIRST SESSION

ON

H. R. 5962

TO PROMOTE THE GENERAL WELFARE THROUGH THE
APPROPRIATION OF FUNDS TO ASSIST THE STATES
AND TERRITORIES IN PROVIDING MORE
EFFECTIVE PROGRAMS OF PUBLIC
EDUCATION

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MARCH 30 AND 31

APRIL 1, 2, 6, 8, AND 13, 1937

Printed for the use of the Committee on Education

UNITED STATES
GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE

WASHINGTON: 1937

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CONTENTS

Thomas F. Cadwallader, representing the Sentinels of the Republic,
Baltimore, Md..

441

Dr. Howard A. Dawson, director of rural service, National Education
Association, Washington, D. C..........

6, 449

E. N. Dietrich, assistant director of education, State Department of

Education, Columbus Ohio..___.

Dr. W. E. B. Du Bois, professor of sociology, Atlanta University,
Atlanta, Ga..

Walter C. Eells, professor of education, Stanford University, Califor-
nia, representing the California State Education Association_

Fred C. Fischer, County superintendent of schools, Detroit, Mich.

Hon. Aaron L. Ford, Representative in Congress from the State of

Mississippi...

Sidney B. Hall, State superintendent of public instruction of the
State of Virginia-

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James L. Hanley, assistant superintendent of schools, Providence, R. I.,
chairman, committee on State aid, Rhode Island Institute of
Instruction_.

M. E. Harlan, mayor, El Paso, Tex-

Charles H. Houston, special counsel for the National Association for
the Advancement of Colored People, New York City..

C. M. Howell, secretary, Oklahoma Education Association.

Rev. Father George Johnson, secretary general, National Catholic
Educational Association, Washington, D. C..........

184

130

185

419

Dr. J. R. Mahoney, professor of economics, University of Utah.
W. T. Markham, State superintendent of schools of Kansas...
Benjamin C. Marsh, executive secretary of the People's Lobby, Wash-
ington, D. C....

306

139

427

Dr. Charles Maxwell, president, Pennsylvania State Educational As-
sociation__

163

Dr. Paul Mort, professor of education, Teachers College, Columbia
University, New York..

Hon. Robert L. Mouton, Representative in Congress from the State
of Louisiana_.

229

162

159

Hon. Wright Patman, Representative in Congress from the State of
Texas.

Spencer Phillips, executive secretary, Louisiana State Education Asso-

ciation, Baton Rouge, La..

W. E. Phipps, State superintendent of public instruction, Little Rock,

Ark..

Hon. Jennings Randolph, Representative in Congress from the State
of West Virginia.......

Very Rev. Msgr. Michael J. Ready, general secretary, National Catho-
lic Welfare Conference, Washington...
James H. Richmond, president, State Teachers College, Murray, Ky-
Elmer E. Rogers, representing the Supreme Council of the Scottish
Rite, Southern Jurisdiction, Washington

Hon. Will Rogers, Representative in Congress from the State of Okla-
homa__

253

87

51

358

B. F. Stanton, superintendent of public schools, Alliance, Ohio----

John T. Taylor, general counsel of the American Legion, Washington,
D. C....

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FEDERAL AID TO THE STATES FOR THE SUPPORT OF

PUBLIC SCHOOLS

TUESDAY, MARCH 30, 1937

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,
COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION,
Washington, D. C.

The committee met in the committee room of the World War Veterans' Committee, House Office Building, at 10:30 a. m., Hon. Vincent L. Palmisano (chairman) presiding.

The CHAIRMAN. The committee will come to order. Before proceeding with the hearing, I will take this opportunity to thank Congressman Rankin for extending to this committee the use of this splendid committee room of the World War Veterans' Committee. The regular committee room of the Committee on Education is not large enough to consider a bill of this kind when there is so much interest manifested throughout the country as evidenced by this large attendance, and I am sure my colleagues join with me in thanking Mr. Rankin.

We are considering H. R. 5962, which was introduced yesterday, involving the same principles as the former Fletcher bill, H. Ř.

2288.

I understand that Dr. Sidney B. Hall, State superintendent of education of Virginia will take charge of the hearing, announcing the speakers, and so forth. May I ask at this time if there are any here in opposition to this bill who want time to be heard?

Mr. ELMER E. ROGERS. I have no desire to testify today, but some time during the hearing, while we are in favor of Federal aid, we desire that the bill be modified in some particulars. That is the only opposition we will have to it.

The CHAIRMAN. In the present form you are opposed to the bill? Mr. ROGERS. We favor all of the features of the bill except one. We would like to have the terms "public education" and "public schools" defined to mean tax-supported free public schools and taxsupported free public education. That is practically the only opposition that we will make to it, and that will be true of probably five other witnesses.

Mr. MASON. May I suggest that this new bill which has been introduced, H. R. 5962, is different from H. R. 2288 in the particulars that you mention?

Mr. ROGERS. I am very glad to hear that.

Mr. MASON. Have you made a study of the new bill?

Mr. ROGERS. I am very glad to have Congressman Mason bring that to my attention and I shall study it.

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