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any new provision with reference to it. He did not boast of possessing any squeamish or morbid sensibility, but he could not see property of this kind in a different state with respect to its protection by the law from any other, and know that the owners of it as well as their families depended on its security, without being anxious to see that protection extended to them. He moved, therefore,

to amend the laws for the protection of Wild Animals reclaimed and retained as private property."

HOUSE OF LORDS.

mously agreed, that ferrets being animals feræ naturæ, no property could be held in them, and that the stealing of them was not punishable. Now, he contended that a ferret was not the useless creature which it was generally thought. It was a most powerful antagonist to that most noxious, odious, and destructive animal the rat (a laugh], and more effective against it than poison, traps, gins, and all that the hammer and the anvil could forge." That leave be given to bring in a bill One of our great poets had told us, that "all things were made for man's delight and use," and therefore he proposed that whenever any animal of whatever descrip. The Attorney General, after some tion, became of delight or use to its pause, seconded the motion, in order to master, his law should protect it. Some bring the subject fairly before the House. gentlemen seemed much to enjoy his allu- The gallery was cleared, but the mosion to rats, but if even these animals tion was negatived, without a division. could be reclaimed, he would have them Mr. Lawson said, he would consign deemed property, and so protected. If, the other motion of which he had given indeed, a rat could be so reclaimed as to notice, namely, with regard to the repeal run from one side of that House to the of the law respecting Trial by Battle, to other [a laugh], he would have such an the more able hands of the attorneyanimal protected from traps or gins. He general, and that learned gentleman acalso proposed to have menageries pro- cordingly gave notice of a motion upon tected; for what just reason could be the subject for Tuesday se'nnight. assigned for not protecting the property of Mr. Polito, or any other proprietor of wild beasts who resided in town, or who travelled through the country? Such animals ought, indeed, upon every just SECRET COMMITTEE ON THE STATE ground, to be protected by law; for their OF THE BANK OF ENGLAND APPOINTED.] general exhibition was known to be of The Earl of Liverpool said, he rose in great utility, especially to the youth of pursuance of notice, to move for a Secret both sexes, in presenting them with a Committee to inquire into the State of practical illustration of the natural history the Bank of England, with reference to of those animals. Why, for instance, the resumption of cash payments, at the should not property in a lion be pro- period prescribed by law, and into other tected? for he was not a base animal; matters connected with the subject. In certainly not so base as an ass; and yet doing this, he had no hesitation in stating the latter was protected by the law, while that it had been his most anxious wish the former was left without protection. that the resumption of cash payments Why should not badgers and monkies should take place with the least possible also be protected by law? Badgers and delay, that no time whatever should be monkies had their useful qualities, and if lost in returning to our ancient policy, as they themselves were not often stolen, it soon as circumstances would possibly could not be denied in this age of foppery, allow. It would be in the recollection of that many stole their faces, anticks, and their lordships that on the opening of the gestures. His object would be, to punish session he had stated his opinion that cirthe offence of stealing them by seven years cumstances would not permit the return transportation, or by whipping, at the dis- to cash payments at the period prescribed cretion of the sessions. The receivers of by law, but that if that should prove to be them, when stolen, should, he thought, the case, it was intended by his majesty s be subject to the same, not a greater government merely to propose the contipunishment, as was sometimes the prac nuance of the restriction till March next, tice in other cases. With regard to their and that if it should in the mean time be becoming nuisances, he considered the thought requisite still to continue the relaw to be quite effectual upon that sub-striction,a committee should be appointed in ject, and should not, therefore, introduce the next session to investigate the subject,

Tuesday, February 2.

The Earl of Liverpool said, he did not think it advisable, in the present stage of the question, that the committee should be authorized to deliver an opinion; nor did he mean that they should be confined to the mere reporting of evidence; he had, therefore, adopted the middle course of allowing them to report such observations as they might think necessary to explain any parts of the evidence, or that they might think of importance.

The Earl of Lauderdale was still of opinion that the words of the motion would preclude the committee from making observations upon any part of the evidence, except the information they actually reported.

The Earl of Harrowby observed, that the words of the motion were the same as those used in 1797, on the appointment of a secret committee, of a similar description, and they had not given rise to any difficulty.

previous to any determination being come the wording of the motion, that the comto. Subsequent to his making that de-mittee on reporting information to the claration, he was induced, as he before House, would be precluded from making stated, to change his intended course, and any observations, except upon the informto propose the committee in the presentation so communicated, although they session, instead of the next. Under these might have important observations to circumstances, it was his earnest wish make, arising from evidence which they that the inquiry should be as large and as might not think it expedient to communiextensive as possible. It was with this cate. view that he had inserted general words in the motion, which would embrace all the questions that related to the subjcet, with out in the least fettering the committee, but leaving them to take their own course in the way they thought best calculated to render the inquiry most effectual. The result of the investigation could alone be rendered satisfactory to the public, or justice done to the subject, by thoroughly examining every branch of the question. Having thus proposed an inquiry in the largest possible sense, he did not think it would be proper for him to enter now into any discussion of the subject. It was most desirable, with a view to a thorough and impartial inquiry. With a view to the whole of this subject being examined in every point of view, and completely sifted to the bottom, that noble lords should come to the investigation, forgetting as much as possible the opinions they might have declared, on whatever side, upon this question, and with a determination to The Earl of Liverpool was only anxious obtain every information upon it that that the committee should have the fullest could be procured, in order to arrive at powers to inquire, and full liberty to rethe best and most expedient result. It port their observations. He had no ob. was an unavoidable inconvenience attend-jection, therefore, to strike out the word ing the investigation, that they could not" thereupon," which would, at all events, have upon the committee noble lords who leave the committee completely at liberty had not on one side or the other declared to make such observations as they should an opinion upon the subject; but they deem meet. need not increase that inconvenience by now prematurely entering into the discussion, or delivering any opinion. It was his most anxious wish that a thorough and complete investigation should take place of every branch of the subject, and with this view he now moved, "That a Secret Committee be appointed by ballot, to consist of thirteen lords, to inquire into the state of the Bank of England, with a view to the resumption of cash payments at the period prescribed by law, and to take into consideration any other matters connected therewith, with power to report any information which they may think fit to be communicated without injury to the public interests, with their observations thereupon."

The Earl of Lauderdale thought, from

The Marquis of Lansdowne, in agreeing most fully in the propriety and expediency of the motion, also cordially agreed with the noble earl, that the members of the committee should come to the inquiry without any reference to their previous opinions, but with a determination to enter upon the fullest investigation of the subject, and only after a thorough inquiry to come to a conclusion upon the evidence. With regard to its being a secret committee, some communications from the Bank might require secrecy, but otherwise the whole subject, in all its branches, was so completely before the public, that he could see no necessity whatever for secrecy. The state of the Bank of England too, he considered a very subordinate part of the inquiry. He had no doubt

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whatever of the solvency of the Bank, or | 6d. per chaldron; and the inland counties of its complete ability to make good all its paid nothing at all. In the metropolis, engagements; there could be no question a population of 1,200,000 paid 700,000l. upon that point; the main investigation duty; in the maritime counties, a populamust turn altogether upon other circum- tion of 4,500,000 paid 1,000,000l. duty; stances, which were in every respect amply and in the inland counties a population of before the public. He did not mean, 3,500,000 paid no duty at all. however, to take the sense of the house as to whether the committee should be secret or not, but merely to observe, that as to all the most material part of the investigation there was no necessity whatever for any secrecy.

The motion was agreed to; and it was ordered that the committee should be balloted for on Thursday.

PETITION FROM LONDON RESPECTING THE INSOLVENT DEBTORS BILL.] The Earl of Shaftesbury presented a Petition on behalf of the Common Council of the city of London against the renewal of the above act, and strongly expressive of the petitioners opinion as to the injustice and injurious tendency of its operation.

The Lord Chancellor observed, that a more important subject could not come under the consideration of parliament than that to which the petition referred, and which must form a question for discussion in the course of the present session. With a view to the due investigation of this subject, and to the obtaining of that information which was requisite to enable the House fully to consider it, he intimated his intention of moving in a day or two, for a statement of the number of persons who had been discharged under the provisions of the Insolvent Debtors' act, their names, the sums for which they had respectively obtained their discharge, and the dividends paid.

Ordered to lie on the table.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.

Tuesday, February 2.

COAL DUTY-PETITION FROM SOUTHWARK.] Mr. Calvert presented a petition from certain manufacturers and inhabitants of the Parish of St. Saviour, Southwark, against the present high duties on Coals. The petitioners complained that it was a most unequal and oppressive duty, and was an imposition contrary to all principles of fair taxation. They stated that the duty paid in the metropolis, in the counties of Surrey, and of Kent, was 9s. 10d. per chaldron; while the duties paid in the maritime counties was 6s.

Sir Robert Wilson spoke in support of the petition. The duty, as it was at present raised, was, he said, at variance with all the just principles of taxation. The petitioners sought only for a fair distribution of the duty. He recommended that a bill should be introduced for this purpose.

Sir M. W. Ridley said, that, as to the taking off the duty on coals, he would give his support to any measure for that purpose, but when it was proposed to take this duty off for the purpose of laying it on the shoulders of others, to this he could never assent.

Ordered to lie on the table.

WESTMINSTER HUSTINGS BILL-PETITION OF MR. HUNT.] Mr. D. W. Harvey presented a petition from Mr. Hunt, against this bill. The hon. member declared, that in presenting this petition, he begged the house to be assured, that he brought the matter forward as a member of that house, and that he by no means wished to be considered as partaking in any of the views or principles of the petitioner.-The petition was then brought up, and read, as follows:

"To the honourable the Commons of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, in parliament assembled:-The Petition of Henry Hunt of Middleton Cottage, in the county of Southampton, esq.;

"Humbly sheweth; That your petitioner having been a candidate at the last election for the city of Westminster, felt it his duty to lay before your hon. house a short statement of some of the facts relating to the conduct of the high bailiff of the said city, seeing that it was the object of the said high bailiff to get another bill to pass your hon. house to protect him in the continuance of such conduct. But as your petitioner perceives that it is still the intention of some of the friends of this measure to press it upon the consideration of your hon. house without any inquiry whatsoever, he begs therefore, most earnestly to call the attention of your hon. house to some other

as Mr. Smedley, the solicitor and legal
adviser of the said high bailiff has offi-
cially informed your petitioner, in the
presence of a third person, that it is not
the intention of the said high bailiff to put
himself to any expense in the erection of
hustings; but that the said high bailiff is
determined to execute the king's writ, in
the open air, and that the poll shall be
taken in eleven watch-boxes.-Your pe-
titioner therefore most humbly prays that
your hon. house will not pass any new
bill exclusively for the protection of the
said high bailiff to exonerate him and his
employers, the dean and chapter of West-
minster, from the payment of the neces-
sary expenses of executing the king's
writ; and your petitioner implores your
hon. house to permit him to prove all and
every of the allegations contained in this
and his former petition either at the bar
or before a committee of your hon. house,
all and every of which allegations your
petitioner is ready to prove, and prays
that he may have an opportunity of doing.
And, &c.
HENRY HUNT."

Mr. Bennet denied that he had used any language which could be termed dis respectful to Mr. Hunt. No word had ever dropped from him, which had the slightest allusion to the conduct of that gentleman.

facts which occurred during the late elec-1 tion; which were not only in direct violation of the privileges of your hon. house, but, if persisted in, will prove the total subversion of the freedom of election. Your petitioner cannot but lament that an hon. member, the mover of the present bill now pending in your hon. house, should have only answered the important facts in the said petition presented, by vague and groundless charges against your petitioner, totally unconnected with the merits of the present bill.-Your petitioner feels that it would be indecorous in him to make any other reply to these heavy charges, than to implore your hon. house to permit him to prove at your bar, before a committee thereof, that the very reverse is the fact.-Your petitioner most distinctly states, that the disgraceful and cowardly assaults that were daily committed upon the person of sir Murray Maxwell, were neither sanctioned by your petitioner, or any of his friends; but, that they were committed by a gang of hired drunken ruffians, instigated by those who were acting as the friends of an hon. baronet, the present member for Westminster; which infamous and cowardly assaults could never have been put in force or repeated, without the collusion of the said high bailiff, and the connivance of the constables under his control.Your petitioner most distinctly disclaims any intention either in this, or his former petition, to obtain the protection of your hon. house to stay the sharp proceedings of the high bailiff and his solicitor against your petitioner in the courts of law, as he is fully persuaded, that he shall have ample justice done him in the honourable court to which those proceedings are referred. Your petitioner is only anxious that your hon. house should investigate the conduct of the said high bailiff, before you pass any new law for his protec-induced to address your hon. house in tion; and that your hon. house will cause a committee to be appointed to examine into the very large amount of the income of the dean and chapter, which your petitioner believes to be upwards of 60,000l. a year; and who are bound, as your petitioner humbly submits, to indemnify the high bailiff, whose servant he is, for the fair expenses of executing the king's writ. -Your petitioner also submits to your hon. house that there is the less cause to hasten the present bill through your hon. house, to protect the said high bailiff from the expenses of the approaching contest,

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Ordered to lie on the table.

WESTMINSTER HUSTINGS BILL-PETITION OF ELECTORS OF WESTMINSTER.] Sir Francis Burdett presented the following petition against this bill:

"To the Commons of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland in parliament assembled:-The petition of the undersigned electors of Westminster,

"Sheweth; That your Petitioners are

consequence of a bill now in progress through your hon. House, to continue an act passed in the 51st year of his present majesty, intituled, An act to extend and amend an act of the 18th year of his late majesty Geo. 2nd, touching the Election of Knights of the Shire to serve in Parliament for England, respecting the Expenses of Hustings and Poll Clerks, so far as regards the City of Westminster.'-That your petitioners are few in number only, because time has not been allowed to call an open public meeting of the electors; but your petitioners

have reason to believe, that they now express the opinions and desires of the great body of the Westminster electors. Your petitioners beg leave to state to your hon. house, that the act of the 51st of the king was passed at the solicitation of the high bailiff of Westminster; and, in consequence of the recommendation of a committee of your hon. house, recommending, that on account of want of time and information requisite to form the ground of a more permanent legislative measure, a temporary act, for two years only, should be passed.-Your petitioners further beg leave to state to your hon. house, that this act was continued in the 53rd of the king, at the solicitation of the high bailiff, and for the same reasons; and that the act expired on the 1st day of the present year. That your petitioners have heard, and believe it to be true, that the office of high bailiff of Westminster was formerly a compulsory office, imposed for a single year, under a penalty for refusal; but, that such office is now purchased from, and immediately held under, the dean and chapter of Westminster; and your petitioners have not been able to ascertain under what law the appointment is made, nor under what law or authority the dean and chapter, or an officer appointed by them, are required to take the election of members of parliament for the city and liberty of West minster. That your petitioners have heard and believe that the elections were formerly made in the Guildhall of the said city, at the expense of the dean and chapter, who exercise the civil govern ment of the city and liberty. But your petitioners have not been able to learn under what law or authority the dean and chapter are invested with the civil power exercised by them.-Your petitioners further represent to your hon. house that the high bailiff having purchased his office of the dean and chapter for a sum of money, furnishes no ground for his being paid money by any person who may be come a candidate, the purchase and sale (even if legal) being an affair between the parties with which candidates for a seat in your hon. house have no concern.Your petitioners submit to your hon. house, that as the high bailiff may, at any time, resign his office, he is not bound to incur expenses on account of any services the dean and chapter may require him to perform; and that he is not compelled by any law to take the elections (VOL. XXXIX.)

for members to your hon. house. That as he is not bound to incur any expense, he does not choose to incur, and as he is not bound to execute the king's writ, your petitioners take leave to suggest, that he is not a person in whose favour a law should be made which compels candidates to pay large sums of money somewhat in the nature of a fine for attempting to serve their country as representatives of the people in your hon. house.-Your petitioners beg leave to represent to your hon. house, that as it is the high bailiff himself who solicits the act for his own advantage, to the injury of those who may become candidates, and to the hindrance of free election, it is incumbent upon him to show to the satisfaction of your hon. house, that the dean and chapter of Westminster by whom he is appointed, are not compelled by law to take the election of members for the city and liberty of Westminster; and your petitioners trust, that your hon. house will not pass an act at the instance of the said high bailiff, which may compel a candidate for a seat in your hon. house to pay a sum of money, which, in certain cases, may exceed 1,000l.-Your petitioners therefore pray that your hon. house will not pass the bill now before your hon. house, respecting the hustings and poll clerks for the city and liberty of Westminster; and that your hon. house, will be pleased to cause due inquiry to be made into the powers, duties, and emoluments of the dean and chapter of Westminster, so far as they relate to the civil offices held by them, or to which they appoint, and especially in relation to the election of citizens to serve in parliament for the city and liberty of Westminster."

Ordered to lie on the table.

He

PAPERS RELATING TO THE CONGRESS AT AIX-LA-CHAPELLE.] Lord Castlereagh, in reference to the Papers relating to the Congress at Aix la Chapelle (see p. 168), observed, that other papers yet remained, which he should be able to present in a few days. Those documents were of a most important nature. alluded particularly to the correspondence which had passed on the subject of the slave-trade, and to certain documents which contained an official statement of the modifications of the instalments of the contributions to be paid on the part of France, and agreed upon between the (P)

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